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A practitioner's credentials were talked about as difficult to "translate", particularly when listed as acronyms following their name, or when referencing a governing body or membership to a professional organisation that was unfamiliar.
Indeed, energy startups were talked about as charity cases.
Both, at one point or another, were talked about as future senators, perhaps even presidential material.
It has barely been a year since Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg and Sheryl Sandberg were talked about as presidential material.
But they were talked about as the museum's president, AGNES GUND, saluted DAVID ROCKEFELLER, the chairman emeritus, who turned 85 on Monday.
It was only six months ago that the Lions, having nabbed Dayne Beams and Allen Christensen, were talked about as boasting one of the league's best midfields.
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"They came in and I didn't know what they were talking about, as I'm not really into games".
The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about, as the old saying goes.
But now they're talking about, as of Feb. 1, buying commercial paper-related securities.
Or should we be talking about, as the conclusions of Starting Strong II say, how to "prepare schools for young children"?
And it is not just the professionals we are talking about, as a family in Wensleydale discovered this weekend.
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