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Both were pretty hopeless.
As a team, we were pretty hopeless.
3.52pm: The Labour MP John Mann is on Sky saying he spoilt his ballot paper because he thought all the candidates were pretty hopeless.
Yet, to begin with, Pakistan were pretty hopeless, losing heavily to England in a group game and then beingwell beaten again, by Sri Lanka, when it came to the Super Eights.
The sales people who went to Cannes discovered that the prospects of pre-selling a black-and-white Polish-language movie on a grim subject with unknown actors were pretty hopeless.
The police were pretty hopeless and remained so during crucial early stages of what quickly became a high profile case, even poorly trained to use their new-fangled computers, so Macpherson noted.
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I am pretty hopeless about remembering coupons.
Fighting wars to change Muslim countries was pretty hopeless, he had concluded.
"It's pretty hopeless, but we'll keep trying and hope that we never succeed".
"The politicians we've got in Victoria from both parties are pretty hopeless.
Ben Bederson, director of the Human-Computer Interaction Lab at the University of Maryland, agrees that bookmarks "are pretty hopeless".
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