This is much closer to traditional Tory ground than talk of personal and social health education.
Yet because of his early failure to take on the big lie about the cause of the recession, the debate has largely been on Tory ground.
Ignoring the views of many economists, it accepted a need to balance the budget and eliminate the deficit which left them playing on Tory ground.
He looked suitably grim-faced following his defeat, the result of a stealth Tory ground campaign, but gave a gracious speech, saying he was more hurt by Labour's overall performance than his personal disappointment.
They may even oppose Corbyn on the unimpeachably anti-Tory grounds that he is guaranteeing a decade of Tory rule.
The Tories gave ground by agreeing to hold a referendum on the alternative vote system and agreeing to speed up the creation of a wholly or mainly elected upper house.
It has been signed by thinktanks from the party's left and right, as well as other progressives, and was drafted before the publication of weekend polls showing the Tories making ground after George Osborne's budget.
The document's sur prisingly sympathetic tone may cost the Tories some ground in their propaganda war with Labour, but at least it reflects an attempt to understand, rather than blindly condemn, youth crime.Neither party denies that young offenders are a serious problem.
The survey, conducted for the former Conservative treasurer Lord Ashcroft, showed a "noticeable shift" towards dissatisfaction with the prime minister's performance, while the Tories lost ground on key issues such as crime, immigration, welfare reform and the economy over the early months of this year.
Cameron did, more lavishly, I think, than any other senior Tory, on the grounds that it was an act of "power to the people" journalism.
This is where a discreet Tory Milibandism gains ground.
