I say "unexpectedly" because Godard's talk lies largely in earnest-eyed fooling.
Beneath all the upbeat talk lies the same kind of fear and uncertainty that is being felt throughout the business world.
"I would be nauseated for days leading up to a talk, lying down, unable to practice or to think, which of course made the anxiety worse," she says.
The true obstacles to talks lie in the two sides' internal troubles.
That may mean that more tedious and difficult talks lie ahead.
But more difficult talks lie ahead on what to do with the North's stockpile of nuclear fuel and its latest batch of spent fuel rods.
At the heart of these talks lies the question of whether Pakistan can and will use its leverage with the Taliban to bring them to a political settlement.
"Dan, after all those hours of talking, lying back on John's bed, Christ-like, with his arms flung open, weeping for what the United States has turned into".
Kerry repeatedly said that lengthy and complex talks lay ahead to ensure a trading relationship between the EU and UK that worked.
