"This is a kind of really effective violence.
If mainstream Islam really demanded violence, our world would look pretty different.
There are no conventionally tense, heart-pumping moments and, actually, no really explicit violence.
"It comes down to culture, and how do we inculcate a culture that really takes violence seriously and takes gun ownership seriously," Mr Shapiro says.
"It was during really chronic violence in the north and we had to take a mad route to get there to avoid it all," explains Thompson.
If something were to happen in Beijing and you had a situation of political instability, well then we'd really see violence in Xinjiang on an unprecedented scale".
"I like horror films but this was predictable, boring, with an awful script and acting, and with some really nasty violence".
The key question about the banned Brotherhood — one that has proved vexing to Egypt's nervous bourgeoisie and to many of its Western friends — is whether it has really renounced violence, as it claims to have done.
Most striking of all is the vision, once the plummet begins, of the illuminated glass façade of the tower sliding past, the pace accelerating yet oddly slow, almost elegant, with no trace really of violence or terror.
Scholars and apologists have debated how much Marx really advocated violence, but followers like Mao, Lenin, Stalin, and Pol Pot seem to have taken 'forcible overthrow' pretty literally, and to have caused a great deal of trembling.
