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A detailed look at the five pollsters that surveyed Americans before and after debate finds that two of them gave Kerry post debate a large bounce, one of them showed a minor tightening, one showed no change at all, and one actually found Bush gaining a point.
The Wall Street Journal sponsored a post-debate survey from Google Consumer Surveys.
Other post-debate surveys produced a different verdict.
In Wisconsin, the Democrat, Representative Tammy Baldwin, has led in all post-debate surveys.
The "instant" post-debate surveys – from ComRes, ICM and the rest – suggesting such an outlandish scenario can be safely dismissed as rogue polls.
Florida and Ohio: In both Florida and Ohio, the most recent polling data is very similar to the numbers in Virginia, which is perhaps not surprising because it emanates from the same two polling exercises: the post-debate surveys of swing states by Rasmussen and We Ask America.
Sometimes that ends up with post-debate surveys that unerringly show Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders as the winners.
After last week's first presidential debate between President Barack Obama and Mitt Romney, both the CNN and CBS post-debate surveys found Romney with a big victory.
WHY THE DEBATE COULD SHIFT THE RACE TOWARD CLINTON - Nate Silver: "Post-debate surveys like CNN's aren't always popular with poll mavens, in part because the universe of poll-watchers may not match the electorate overall.
Quinnipiac had McAuliffe's margin running 8pt ahead of his overall lead compared to 17pt ahead in Quinnipiac's most accurate post-first 2012 debate survey.
Republican presidential candidate Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla). is experiencing a post-debate boost, three new surveys find, with two New Hampshire polls and a national poll this week all showing him rising to third place. .
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