And rise together," concludes P Money.
P Money agrees: "Half the people that are judging it aren't there to see it.
Then again, you could have seen her spitting rhymes on the live circuit alongside MCs such as P Money, or over DJ sets by Goldie, Skream and Benga.
He's happy to talk about discovering Katy B and producing music for her and other Rinse artists such as P Money and Jamie George.
"It was one of the biggest things to ever come out for grime," says the south-east London MC P Money.
Owing to tour, media and studio commitments, tracking down the MCs for Pow 2011 (including Wiley, Chipmunk, P Money, Kano, and JME) took a little longer.
What's your top song right now? Tough one, but I've been playing Footsie ft JME, D Double E, Jammer, P Money & Chronik – Spookfest a lot recently.
Later he is joined by grime luminary P Money, who spits enthusiastically over his beats, demonstrating the extent to which dubstep can incorporate several different styles – although thankfully, Benga never goes near the harder sound of American "brostep".
I heard about training while listening to the radio, and, eight months later, I have my own show, have had P Money, Double E and Stormzy in the studio and am working with Rinse FM.
He mentions the rapper P Money as an example of an up-and-coming black MC who both deserves, and would benefit from, having his less watered-down talent brought to a wider audience.
