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So last week's changes, wrought by John Clare of parent group DSG International after much consultation with focus groups and brand consultants, were a bit of a shock.
There isn't much consultation with the clergy or the laity.
Smith acknowledged that he made his decision without much consultation.
You know, I'm accused of too much consultation.
Too much consultation can be as dodgy as too little.
The army, for now, is advancing a transition plan without much consultation with Egypt's political forces.
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11.39am BST John Cryer, a Labour MP, asks Clegg why, since he believes so much in consultation, the third-party spending plans were not put out to public consultation.
After a much anticipated consultation response, we have now seen the detail of the reform to the antisocial behaviour (ASB) toolkit proposed by the Home Office.
Howard Johns, MD of Southern Solar, who spotted the document, tweeted: "It seems that EST know exactly what the outcome of the Fit review already – so much for consultation".
But there is too much parachute consultation, engaging with community leaders, not the poorest, and without the long-term community involvement needed to understand the reality of poverty.
The $819 billion bill that passed the House in February, after much informal consultation with the White House, ran into trouble right away in the Senate, where a powerful centrist bloc takes a dim view of wasteful spending.
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