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"How many black models are there?" I asked.
"There still aren't that many black models at the agencies, and the ones that there are tend to be inexperienced.
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It is an attitude also seen in haute couture fashion houses (how many black catwalk models do you see?) and certainly in evidence in the other multimillion women's industry, beauty and cosmetics.
She dismisses as "ridiculous" the allegation of racism, saying her French edition featured many more black models than most European or American Vogues.
"We will consider how the government might support this recommendation for a national role modelling programme, which emphasises those local people making a real contribution to civic life in their communities," Ms Blears said of the report, which claims that too many black male role models glamorise crime, guns or drugs.
It included many of the best black models of the past 30 years, from ground-breakers like Pat Cleveland to Jourdan Dunn, said to be the new Naomi Campbell.
Stories of industry racism are now so well known it's easy to become blase about them, and many come from the few successful black models in the business.
Many black professionals regarded O'Neal as a role model.
"Arthur Ashe was a role model for me, and for many black folks.
The role-modelling cliche has arisen because too many Black children do not have their fathers around.
And it takes place in modelling, where it is said that black models don't sell clothes, as well as in many other image-driven arenas such as TV and film.
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