When you've heard the call to prayer broadcast over loudspeakers in an Islamic city, when you stop what you're doing and listen to it, the comfort in knowing it happens at the same times day in and day out, a call for people across the city to stop and reflect, it will soften your views or judgments of that faith.
When the cadre blamed the Americans for the deaths of women and children, Russo took a new tack, initiating what he called a "friendly chat" about world politics, the American role in Vietnam, and the civil rights movement in the U.S. "Even though I don't know first hand what it means to be burned out, pillaged, and raped, I grew up knowing it had happened to my ancestors," Russo would later say.
"They made it pretty clear to me that nothing was happening in North Korea without people in authority knowing it was happening and allowing it to happen".
Wouldn't it be awful if the whole consultation period elapsed without most people knowing it had happened at all?
Bailey explained to me that, when Juanita made the sexual-relations charge to Northwestern in 2003, in order to defend himself, knowing it never happened, he immediately looked up his computer records to see whether he could prove his claim.
"I sort of watched it spin out of control, knowing it was happening," he told me.
"We did Halo for ten years we just didn't have the benefit of knowing it would happen.
A patent like this could have a serious impact on Facebook user's lives by affecting their credit-worthiness and blocking access to money - all without them even knowing it's happening.
No one going back to work a day after having being shot in the arms, knowing it could happen again, is going to take that risk unless they care deeply for and about women, and have a very real grasp of and compassion for the realities of women's lives.
Mr Coulson is being held over hacking - he denies knowing it was happening.
