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joyful both
Grammar usage guide and real-world examplesUSAGE SUMMARY
The phrase "joyful both" is not correct and does not convey a clear meaning in written English.
It may be intended to express that two subjects are joyful, but the construction is awkward and unclear. Example: "They were joyful both at the news of their promotion." (This would be better phrased as "They were both joyful at the news of their promotion.")
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Alternative expressions(5)
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Exact Expressions
1 human-written examples
Giving--whether a smile, our time, a listening ear, food or material gifts--is profoundly joyful, both to the one who is receiving and the one who is giving.
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57 human-written examples
Over the course of a 29-year career, the Lips have evolved from weirdo noiseniks into a prestigious 21st-century cult act espousing joyful derangement, both in tune and in deed.
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Both joyful and triumphant, it does go on a bit.
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The riff was a gesture both joyful and wary, a recognition of historic progress and a reminder that the day of post-racial utopia had yet to come.
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Jane will be remembered by her many friends for her gracious style, and a personality that was both joyful and peaceful.
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They contributed to the feeling in the house that the enterprise of putting on a play is a worthy one, both joyful and serious.
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Their reunion in Paris after the war was both joyful and uncomfortable: Kurt was now as much a child of the Cohens as of the Fuchels.
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The Rev. Thomas Costa asked the couple to reflect on "all the events both joyful and sorrowful that have brought you to this moment".
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But the show doesn't just break ground; it digs up the memories that are buried there, both joyful and tragic, and airs them in poignant and intelligent ways.
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Successfully and poignantly he manages to make this journey both joyful and sadly concerning.
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It's been both joyful and sometimes difficult, but always rewarding.
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Expert writing Tips
Best practice
Prioritize using the phrase "both joyful" or "joyful and" for grammatical clarity. Ensure the context supports the intended meaning of shared joy or dual aspects of joy.
Common error
Avoid using "joyful both" as it sounds unnatural and can confuse readers. Instead, opt for more conventional word order such as "both joyful" or "joyful and" for better clarity.
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Linguistic Context
The phrase "joyful both" is an attempt to describe two subjects or aspects as experiencing joy. However, it is considered grammatically incorrect. Ludwig AI highlights that the construction is awkward, suggesting alternative phrasing for clarity.
Frequent in
News & Media
67%
Science
17%
Wiki
16%
Less common in
Encyclopedias
0%
Formal & Business
0%
Reference
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Ludwig's WRAP-UP
In summary, the phrase "joyful both" is grammatically awkward and not recommended for formal writing. Ludwig AI indicates that this construction is incorrect and provides suggestions for improvement. A more standard phrasing would be "both joyful" or "joyful and". While the phrase may appear in various sources, including news media, its usage is infrequent. For clear and effective communication, it's best to opt for grammatically correct alternatives.
More alternative expressions(10)
Phrases that express similar concepts, ordered by semantic similarity:
both joyful
Reverses the order of the words to create a more grammatically correct phrase.
joyful and
Omits the word 'both' and changes the structure.
both happy
Substitutes "joyful" with a synonym that keeps the original structure.
equally joyful
Adds emphasis on the equal distribution of joy.
joyful in equal measure
Rephrases to emphasize equality in the level of joy.
happy and equally
Switches "joyful" with "happy" to provide a clearer flow.
joyful on both sides
Highlights that joy is experienced on two separate sides.
both filled with joy
Emphasizes that there is an abundance of joy.
a dual joy
Expresses that joy is composed of two elements.
mutually joyful
Highlights that joy is shared reciprocally between two parts.
FAQs
How can I use the words "joyful" and "both" correctly in a sentence?
Instead of using "joyful both", a more grammatically sound phrase is "both joyful". For example, "They were "both joyful" at the news".
What is a better alternative to "joyful both"?
Alternatives include "both joyful", "joyful and", or rephrasing the sentence to use "joy" as a noun.
Is "joyful both" grammatically correct?
No, "joyful both" is not considered grammatically correct in standard English. The proper phrasing is generally "both joyful".
What does it mean when something is described as "both joyful"?
When something is described as "both joyful", it typically means that two subjects or aspects are experiencing joy or causing joy.
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Table of contents
Usage summary
Human-verified examples
Expert writing tips
Linguistic context
Ludwig's wrap-up
Alternative expressions
FAQs
Source & Trust
83%
Authority and reliability
2.8/5
Expert rating
Real-world application tested