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He said science fiction had lost its fringe status: "It is very strange and striking that when I was a teenager it made me an outcast and a nerd, I was a prime geek and now I'm director of a mainstream cultural institution and doing shows at the Barbican.
When your main seed investor becomes the CEO of AOL, it does have its fringe benefits.
With so many people finally "getting" CouchSurfing, it may finally shake its fringe reputation.
It could also become captive to its fringe elements.
Some proponents of the card compared the noisy clamour to the hostility the government had faced over its fringe benefits and capital gains taxes, but it is hard to believe that too many really believed this.
The boundary-pushing performance quickly became a cult hit, but its fringe subject matter and unorthodox musical stylings made it an unlikely Broadway favorite.
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It is widely cultivated for its fringe-petaled flowers, which often have a spicy fragrance.
(When I moved to New York in the late 1970s, in my arrogant intellectual youth, it was only Off Broadway and its fringes that really seemed fit for my consideration).
These days it's also a construction zone, at least on its fringes.
But of all the powers and empires in the world, it is still the one that most countries on its fringes would want as their neighbour.
BBC2 adds to the confusion by its Fringe-focused coverage, presented by Mark Lamarr, a jokey, pop-minded commentator ill at ease with high art.
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