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12.20pm: If Iraq had been the only show in town we could have increased troops too, but of course we couldn't because of commitments in Afghanistan, Dannatt says.
"I've always felt we were never going to do any good over there," Ms. Atley said, adding, "I don't think we should increase our troops because increased troops aren't going to do anything except put more of our men and women in jeopardy".
(As an aside, she is talking about a president who has increased troops in Afghanistan, stepped up drone attacks on the enemy, and taken out more Taliban and al Qaeda leaders than George W. Bush ever did, but I digress... )...
But even then, having 2,000 of the 40,000 troops requested and the 30,000 agreed to by Obama could not be enough to swing "hope" and "security deliverables" so dramatically -- unless increased troops are actually irrelevant to the conditions on the ground in Afghanistan.
The increased troops, Obama said, "will increase our ability to train competent Afghan security forces, and to partner with them so that more Afghans can get into the fight.
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Part of the review will address increased troop levels.
The U.S. has just increased troop levels tenfold in Wardak.
(Indeed, "bridge to nowhere" might be a good name for our increased troop levels in Afghanistan).
"I am calling for a timeline and an exit strategy," Ms. Lee said, "and no additional funding for increased troop levels.
My last two trips, in 2007, were to report on the US military "surge" in Baghdad, when President Bush increased troop numbers in an effort to stabilise the city.
He increased troop levels there in the expectation they would produce quick returns, then began looking for a quick way out when they did not do so.
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