Her material moves in irregular ways, hiccuping and extending itself where another producer would choose to go ahead and kick in, making things easier for the dancers.
There's a certain snobbishness in making things that people are a bit baffled by.
Mostafa will not dispute having had an interest in making things go bang.
"And the dirty secret is they're cutting corners in making things".
The culture here was traditionally a productive one rooted in making things and selling them.
At 61, it seems, Davies is still not interested in making things easy for himself.
"Tanya is never one to put herself at the front," she says, "but she's always instrumental in making things happen".
And Ive sees no intrinsic virtue in making things by hand: "You can have careless, unqualified craftspeople".
He's a hands-on chief executive who is less interested in ideology than in making things work.
He studied Latin and Greek, and was interested in making things, so his schoolmasters told him to do art.
In trade terms, Europe and America have a greater comparative advantage in managing money than in making things.
