And if you think it's just scientists and environmentalists thinking this way, it's actually almost anyone with a conscience.
The most important thing that's changed, however, is that environmentalists and forward thinking modern cities have realized conclusively that the best way to handle garbage is not to drag it out in unprocessed form in either trucks or on 19th Century barges.
In fact, the best thing that any U.S. environmentalist can do is to start thinking like an economist — particularly a Norwegian one.
"The environmentalists really shied away from Republicans, thinking Republicans would line up behind the president, the governor and the utility crossings.
For decades, his advocacy of nuclear power appalled fellow environmentalists - but recently increasing numbers of them have come around to his way of thinking.
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In struggles at the polls between oil companies and environmentalists, traditionally the thinking was that environmentalists were poor and stupider, and less ruthless".
Whether it is Monsanto or government scientists doing the research there always seems to be an environmentalist or two thinking of doing some uprooting.
Griffin is against homosexuality, and GM foods; he is pro British beef-on-the bone, but is suspicious of the "environmentalist way of thinking, which is pure Marxism".
The environmentalist Amory Lovins, whose thinking has influenced Chu's, has referred to the replacement of incandescent light bulbs with compact fluorescents as "not a free lunch, but a lunch you're paid to eat," since a fluorescent bulb will usually save enough electricity to more than offset its higher purchase price.
