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either both these
Grammar usage guide and real-world examplesUSAGE SUMMARY
The phrase "either both these" is not correct in standard written English.
It is likely intended to express a choice between two options, but the construction is awkward and unclear. Example: "You can choose either both these options or none at all."
⚠ May contain grammatical issues
Science
News & Media
Alternative expressions(7)
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Exact Expressions
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Thus, both the melanisation pathway and the anti-Plasmodium response are primed, suggesting that either both these pathways are used in attempts to clear V.culicis, or that V.culicis infection leads to a general priming of the entire immune system.
Science
Human-verified similar examples from authoritative sources
Similar Expressions
59 human-written examples
(One might have thought it obvious that either both of these acts are completely outrageous, or neither of them is).
News & Media
P. roqueforti was found polymorphic for the presence of Wallaby and CheesyTer, with all tested strains carrying either both of these regions or neither of them (Table S3).
Science
It could have arrived in the Lake District by either or both these means".
News & Media
But whether either or both these lines are made, it appears certain that American shipping and not European will be the gainer.
News & Media
Mean ages were 58 ± 12 years for patients without diabetes and CKD, and 66 ± 10 years for patients with either or both these pathologies (P < 0.001).
Science
A lacto-ovo vegetarian diet excludes all meat, poultry, and fish, but permits eggs and dairy products, as well as foods containing either or both these.
Wiki
Anyway, if you missed either of these, both are well worth catching up on.
News & Media
These data suggest that either, or both, of these residues could interact with other parts of the channel protein to slow deactivation rates in WT hERG.
Science
That system depends on heterodimeric bridges made up of Ds and Ft molecules; these bridges cannot form without either or both of these proteins.
Science
Job b has TS = 10, and job d has TS = 30; either or both of these jobs could be delayed by these amounts of time without delaying the project.
News & Media
Expert writing Tips
Best practice
Avoid using the phrase "either both these". Instead, opt for grammatically correct alternatives such as "either of these" or "both of these", depending on your intended meaning.
Common error
A common mistake is to use "either both these" when intending to express a choice between two options or the inclusion of both. Ensure you clarify whether you mean a selection from the options ("either of these") or the combination of them ("both of these").
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Linguistic Context
The phrase "either both these" functions incorrectly as a connector or determiner, attempting to express a combination of choice and inclusion. As Ludwig AI indicates, this phrase is not standard English.
Frequent in
Science
33%
News & Media
33%
Formal & Business
0%
Less common in
Encyclopedias
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Wiki
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Reference
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Ludwig's WRAP-UP
In summary, the phrase "either both these" is grammatically incorrect and should be avoided in standard English. As Ludwig AI clarifies, it attempts to combine the concepts of choice ("either") and inclusion ("both") in a way that is confusing and non-standard. Instead, opt for alternatives like "either of these" when indicating a selection, or "both of these" when referring to the inclusion of both options. While a few examples exist, primarily in Science and News & Media contexts, its infrequent use and grammatical issues make it unsuitable for formal writing.
More alternative expressions(6)
Phrases that express similar concepts, ordered by semantic similarity:
either of these
Corrects the grammatical error by using "of", indicating a choice between two options.
both of these
Focuses on the inclusion of both options, removing the element of choice.
one or both of these
Specifies that either a single option or both options can be chosen.
either one of these
Clarifies that only one of the options can be selected.
whether one or both of these
Introduces uncertainty regarding the selection of one or both options.
any of these
Expands the selection to include more than two possibilities.
either this or that
Uses a classic "either/or" structure to present two explicit choices.
each of these
Highlights individual consideration of each option.
this or that
Simplified version of 'either this or that', presenting two options.
any or all of these
Expresses the possibility of choosing some, all, or none of the options.
FAQs
What's grammatically wrong with "either both these"?
The phrase "either both these" is grammatically incorrect because "either" implies a choice between two options, while "both" suggests the inclusion of two options simultaneously. The combination creates a confusing and non-standard construction.
When should I use "either of these" instead of "both of these"?
Use "either of these" when you want to indicate a choice between two options, meaning only one can be selected. Use "both of these" when you want to refer to the inclusion or consideration of two options together.
Are there contexts where "either both these" might be acceptable?
No, "either both these" is not considered standard English in any formal context. It's best to avoid this phrase and use grammatically correct alternatives such as "either of these" or "both of these".
What are some formal alternatives to "either of these"?
Formal alternatives to "either of these" include "one of these options", "either one of these", or specifying the options directly (e.g., "either option A or option B").
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Usage summary
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Ludwig's wrap-up
Alternative expressions
FAQs
Source & Trust
82%
Authority and reliability
2.1/5
Expert rating
Real-world application tested