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derive with
Grammar usage guide and real-world examplesUSAGE SUMMARY
"derive with" is not a grammatically correct phrase in written English.
You cannot use it as is. If you are trying to express the idea of obtaining something based on data from an experiment or research, you might say something like: "We derived the conclusion from our experiments."
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7 human-written examples
The best part for me is the spontaneous connection I derive with people when they see me carrying it.
News & Media
Let We easily derive with the notation (3.27).
Thus, using in (18) the PDF transformation for two random variables, related as (here ), we can derive with the help of (B.6) the PDF of the SNR as a sum of weighted gamma PDFs, that is, (19).
Thus, we derive with the aid of Lemma 5.4 by writing H λ in place of A that a = ( a n ) ∈ { c 0 λ ( B ˜ ) } α = { c λ ( B ˜ ) } α iff sup K ∈ F ∑ n | ∑ k ∈ K h n k λ | < ∞.
Then, we can derive with the help of the matrix inversion lemma that the the solution of the problem is given by θ i * = s i 1 - σ 1 C ( γ R 1 ) + σ 1 C ( γ R 2 ) + ∑ j = 1 N σ j C ( γ j R ) (29). with s i = σ i C ( γ i R ) if 1 ≤ i ≤ N σ 1 C ( γ R 2 ) if i = N + 1 σ i - N C ( γ R 1 ) if N + 2 ≤ i ≤ 2 N - 1 (30).
"The influence that we derive with them is by working with them," Votel said, adding that he believes the Saudis are adopting American-style procedures to limit civilian casualties.
News & Media
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The CyT203 and CyT49 cell lines were derived with partial funding from the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation.
Science & Research
All of the many results derived with the index will have to be revisited.
Academia
which are again very similar to the values derived with Sherpa.
Academia
The engine models were derived with system identification methods.
Science
Market clearing prices are derived with Lagrange relaxation.
Expert writing Tips
Best practice
When describing how something originates or is obtained, consider using synonyms like "obtain through", "deduce from", or "infer from" for more precise communication.
Common error
A common error is to use "with" instead of "from" after "derive". Always use "derive from" to indicate the source or origin of something. For example, say "The data was derived from the experiment", not "The data was derived with the experiment".
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Linguistic Context
The phrase "derive with" is an incorrect usage attempting to connect the verb "derive" with a preposition. The intended function is to indicate the origin or means by which something is obtained, but it fails grammatically. Ludwig AI confirms its incorrectness.
Frequent in
Science
60%
News & Media
30%
Formal & Business
10%
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Ludwig's WRAP-UP
In summary, the phrase "derive with" is grammatically incorrect and should be avoided. The correct form is "derive from". While Ludwig shows a few examples of its use, primarily in scientific and news contexts, the grammatical error significantly reduces its effectiveness. Instead, consider using alternatives such as "obtain through", "deduce from", or "infer from" to more accurately and correctly convey your intended meaning. As Ludwig AI highlights, using correct grammar is crucial for clear communication.
More alternative expressions(6)
Phrases that express similar concepts, ordered by semantic similarity:
derive from
This is the standard and grammatically correct phrasing for indicating origin or source.
obtain through
Focuses on the process of acquiring something by means of something else.
deduce from
Emphasizes reaching a conclusion based on available information or evidence.
infer from
Similar to deduce, but suggests a more subtle or indirect process of reasoning.
gain through
Highlights the acquisition of something as a result of a specific action or process.
extract from
Implies carefully taking something out of something else.
develop using
Focuses on creating or improving something by making use of a particular method or tool.
create with
Highlights the use of something to create a final product.
formulate using
This alternative describes building or defining, especially a theory or a plan with help of other things.
ascertain from
This alternative suggests obtaining a piece of information with certainty.
FAQs
What does it mean to "derive from" something?
To "derive from" something means to originate or stem from it. It implies that something is a source or origin of something else, for example, "His wealth was derived from his business ventures."
Is "derive with" grammatically correct?
No, "derive with" is not grammatically correct. The correct phrasing is "derive from", which means to originate or obtain something from a source.
Can I use alternatives to "derive from"?
Yes, you can use alternatives such as "obtain through", "deduce from", or "infer from" depending on the specific context.
How do I properly use "derive from" in a sentence?
Use "derive from" to indicate the source or origin of something. For example, "The word 'algorithm' is derived from the name of the mathematician Al-Khwarizmi."
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Real-world application tested