Slobodan Milosevic, the former Serbian leader and Yugoslav president who is on trial on war crimes charges, listened with a faint smile.
His commission went on a gruelling and emotionally charged listening tour of the province.
Surprisingly, perhaps, Ms Heuvel and those in charge listened - and now, for the first time in close to 30 years, the current crop of Nation interns are getting paid a minimum wage.
And when you do, the people in charge might listen.
Oh and you can't charge and listen to music via cable.
When she was appearing in Los Angeles in the 1960s, a guard was placed outside her dressing room, charged to listen for the tell-tale pop of corks.
The Lightning socket works fine, the only problem is the cable doesn't twist, so I ended up with twisting cords and you can't charge and listen to your iPhone 7, say at your desk in an open-plan office.
Greenberg's meaning is clear: I've been put in charge to listen and learn, not to bark orders.
Hopelessly lost half a dozen times, we picked our way among hundreds of thousands of bodies and got righteously irritated that no one seemed to know our friend or where we should go or where supplies could be found, or who else might be in charge -- "Listen, you guys flew us up here to do this job.
On the shores of Guantanamo Bay, where we have incarcerated brown bodies for years without trial or charge, I listen to soldiers whose names I cannot say - young soldiers of our generation who are your age - tell me they have inherited wars not of their own making.
