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Both fathers are ineffectual.
Both fathers were successful diplomats.
I gather that you're both fathers.
Both fathers held senior positions under Deng Xiaoping.
And a testament to good sportsmanship from both fathers.
They are -- or were -- both fathers of young children.
With their sons' deaths, both fathers realized the dark side of their familiarity with the job.
Not only that, but both fathers, soon husbands, turned out to be very violent.
We're both fathers now so we're slightly more sensible than we used to be.
Both of their families were sake brewers; both fathers had been big wheels in local politics.
A significant subset of parents (both fathers and mothers) seem to have missed that message.
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