"I think for a long time, people treated TV as, 'Oh, it's kind of like reading a book.' I think people were confused about what TV is," Mr. Barbato said.
But we certainly believe that it's okay to have something be a continuous flow from start to end and not necessarily be perceived as, "Oh, it's going to be a bunch of download tracks or a bunch of ring tones" or something like that.
"But this should be viewed as, 'Oh it's great, women aren't the only ones biologically adapted to be parents.' "Humans give birth to incredibly dependent infants.
It's as if he says, "Oh, it wasn't the zeitgeist of the 90s that was the problem.
How did you do that?" To which I responded, as I still do, "Oh, it was no trouble; there was nothing to it; it was all simple; Howard Strauss did it".
Also avoid cracking jokes like "Oh, it was horrible" as they clear a plate that you obviously licked clean.
"If we don't talk about it, if we accept the status quo as is, like, 'Oh, it's ok to just focus on women for our diversity efforts".
My mother went as far as to claim, "Oh, it's a bit hadena" - literally translating to "gaudy" or "flamboyant".
"You don't look at them as, 'Oh, I'm going to make a friend,' " he said, "because you think it's temporary".
"You're not going to worry as much because, 'Oh, it's Minneapolis,' " he said.
