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The phrase "are the same without" is correct and usable in written English.
It can be used to express that two or more things share a similarity or equivalence when a certain element is absent.
Example: "The experiences we share are the same without the laughter that brings us together."
Alternatives: "are identical without" or "are equivalent without".
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All of these algorithms require the application of a complex procedure to the trained SVM or ANN to extract the rules, while in the case of the logic minimization method proposed in the present study, the creation of the classification system and the discovery of the rules describing the dataset are the same, without the need to implement additional steps (see Figure 1).
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